tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7238849140976286627.post1564273330434056356..comments2024-03-08T15:43:54.700+00:00Comments on Cruwys news: Family Tree DNA "Sizzling Summer Sale"Debbie Kennetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11573470282571579765noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7238849140976286627.post-65930649544986489972013-06-29T01:10:59.418+01:002013-06-29T01:10:59.418+01:00I will reserve judgement until the paper is publis...I will reserve judgement until the paper is published but I very much doubt that POBI will make any such statement in Nature. News articles need to have a "story" whereas the scientific facts are often somewhat different and nowhere near as clear-cut.Debbie Kennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11573470282571579765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7238849140976286627.post-7905112679300502592013-06-28T23:46:05.261+01:002013-06-28T23:46:05.261+01:00Debbie,
I question your statement and assertion a...Debbie,<br /><br />I question your statement and assertion as not being very knowledgeable in this area: "POBI have not identified any group as "Ancient British". Indeed, it would be not be possible to make such an inference."<br /><br />See Donnelly at: http://www.amren.com/news/2012/06/welsh-people-could-be-most-ancient-in-uk-dna-suggests/ and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-18489735. Why don't you just ring him up and see if he still stands by that. I think he will :-) Or, you can read it about it in the upcoming Nature paper which should be pretty definitive in one of the highest peer reviewed journals in the field.<br /><br />GeorgeGeorge Jones R1b-L371 "Ancient British"noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7238849140976286627.post-35146899695506113632013-06-28T23:26:06.524+01:002013-06-28T23:26:06.524+01:00Thank you George. I did actually ask Bruce Winney ...Thank you George. I did actually ask Bruce Winney about the publication of the POBI paper. He told me at the beginning of June that he was crossing his fingers about publication in the "next couple of months".<br /><br />I don't think anonymity will be a problem. The names were only revealed in the other research because the participants' ages and US state of residence were given. I understood the delay was because some of the team wanted to do additional research before publishing.<br /><br />Bruce Winney gave a talk at WDYTYA Live in February. See my blog post here: <br /><br /><a href="http://cruwys.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/who-do-you-think-you-are-live-2013-days.html" rel="nofollow">http://cruwys.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/who-do-you-think-you-are-live-2013-days.html</a><br /><br />I understand the forthcoming paper will focus on autosomal SNPs. The last I heard Mark Jobling was going to be asked to do the Y-SNP analysis but I don't know if anything has as yet happened. POBI identified two clusters in Wales, one in the north and one in the south. Little England in Pembrokeshire was also genetically distinct. POBI have not identified any group as "Ancient British". Indeed, it would be not be possible to make such an inference.Debbie Kennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11573470282571579765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7238849140976286627.post-44300765342135607622013-06-28T22:49:34.149+01:002013-06-28T22:49:34.149+01:00Debbie,
As a FYI for you and your Blog followers ...Debbie,<br /><br />As a FYI for you and your Blog followers about the People Of The British Isles study: The NEWEST & LATEST paper from POBI will be published in Nature very shortly according to a person directly familiar with the process.<br /><br />Since 2012, I hearthe research had to be further "anonymized" in regards to the participants because of earlier reported weaknesses in this area. http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/04/25/harvard-professor-re-identifies-anonymous-volunteers-in-dna-study/<br /><br />Others wanting a copy of this paper ... please email me or check here: http://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/<br /><br />I hope the POBI researchers do include SURNAMES and Terminal Y-DNA Hgs at some point. Anybody know anything about that? My Terminal Y-DNA Hg is R1b-L371 from Wales http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RL371/<br /><br />These Welsh are among the "Ancient British" according to several informed POBI researchers (see the pink markers in Wales here: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2012/07/map1.jpg)<br /><br />Also, Full Sequence MtDNA analysis when they dip further into their participant DNA samples.<br /><br />GeorgeGeorge Joneshttp://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/noreply@blogger.com