All my known ancestors on all my lines within the last 500 years are from the British Isles. Here is a breakdown on a generation by generation basis:
- All four of my grandparents were born in England. One grandparent was born in Bristol, and my other three grandparents were born in London.
- All eight of my great-grandparents were born in England. Four of my great-grandparents were born in London, two were born in Hampshire, one was born in Bristol and one was born in Gloucestershire.
- I know the birthplaces of 15 of my 16 great-great grandparents and they were all were born in England in the following locations: Berkshire, Bristol (2), Devon, Essex, Gloucestershire, Hampshire, Hertfordshire, London (x 5), Somerset and Wiltshire. My great-great grandparent with an unknown birth location was very likely to have been born in London.
- I know the birthplaces of 24 of my 32 great-great-great grandparents. I have one ggg grandmother who was born in Ireland, and one ggg grandfather who was born in Scotland. My other ggg grandparents were all born in England in the following locations: Bedfordshire, Berkshire (x2), Devon (x2), Bristol, Essex, Gloucestershire (x2), Hampshire (x2), Hertfordshire (x3), London (x5), Somerset (x2), Wiltshire. My other eight ggg grandparents are all most likely to have been born in England, probably in Bristol, London and Hampshire.
I am probably fairly typical of someone with ancestry from the south and west of England whose ancestry has been filtered through the melting pot of London.
Here is my Ethnicity Estimate from AncestryDNA. According to the AncestryDNA FAQs (Interpreting my results Q5) the test can "reach back hundreds, maybe even a thousand years, to tell you things that aren't in historical records". In the Ethnicity Estimate White Paper AncestryDNA caution that "Genetic estimates of ethnicity also go back thousands of years, beyond the end of a pedigree paper trail. Regions identified as “populations” in a pedigree may have been very different thousands of years ago, and so may be represented differently in a genetic ethnicity estimate."
Here is the MyOrigins report from Family Tree DNA. The timeframe for the genetic clusters is not given but in the MyOrigins White Paper it is stated that the clusters "span extant modern human genetic variation" but are also "reflective of ancient migrations and admixtures".
23andMe provide the most sophisticated tools. They offer three different Ancestry Composition reports - conservative, standard and speculative. They tell us that these results "reflect where your ancestors lived before the widespread migrations of the past few hundred years".
Here is my conservative estimate:
Here is my standard estimate:
Here is my speculative estimate:
23andMe also provide a chromosome view which shows the breakdown of your admixture across all your different chromosomes. Here is my chromosome view in the speculative mode:
AncestryDNA reference samples
Great Britain 111
Ireland 138
Source: The AncestryDNA Reference Panel (version 2.0) (available to AncestryDNA customers)
Family Tree DNA MyOrigins reference samples
British 39
Irish 45
Scottish 43
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As can be seen, both Ancestry and Family Tree DNA have very small sample sizes from the British Isles. They have not made any attempt to split the samples into constituent countries. Northern Ireland would be expected to be genetically very similar to Scotland but we don't know if Ancestry's Irish samples are from the north or the south of Ireland or from both countries combined. We don't where in Great Britain their samples were taken from. Family Tree DNA seem to think that Scotland has already separated from Britain and is a country in its own right! In view of this, it is not clear if their British samples also include people of Scottish ancestry or if they now think that Britain only consists of England and Wales. It is also not known if their Irish samples are for people with ancestors from the whole of Ireland or just from the Republic of Ireland.
23andMe have the benefit of a larger dataset but this has not improved the accuracy of their reports, and they have a confusing grasp of geography. They label a cluster as "British and Irish" but describe samples collected from the UK and Ireland. Do they realise that Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom? One wonders if customers with ancestors from Northern Ireland described themselves as from Ireland or the UK. It would have made more sense to ask people to define which country within the British Isles their ancestors came from rather than providing two confusing and overlapping options.
In view of these limitations it is therefore not surprising that we often see some bizarre results. For example, it is often the case that Americans come out with much higher percentages of "British" ancestry with these tests than "native" Brits like me. Americans sometimes have surprisingly high percentages of "British" of 80% or more.
The lack of defined reference samples from specific countries within the British Isles also sometimes gives confusing results. I have one project member with seven of his eight great-grandparents born in Wales and one great-grandparent born in Devon. At AncestryDNA he comes out as 64% Irish and 12% Great Britain, 12% Scandinavia and 11% Trace Regions. At Family Tree DNA his ancestry is reported as being 97% from the British Isles and 3% from Finland and Siberia.
There are no doubt problems with the sampling in other countries too which produces similarly misleading results. Joss ar Gall, who writes the Le Gall of Lower Britanny blog, is French and all his ancestry is from Britanny yet, according to his 23andMe test, he is only 19% French. AncestryDNA assigned him with no French DNA at all but found that he was 46% British and 10% Irish. One would expect many similarities between the French and the English but clusters which clearly cross country borders should not be labelled so specifically because people are misled and take the labels too literally.
Admixture tests really need to be used for entertainment purposes only at the present time, and the results should be taken with a very large pinch of salt. However, the tests can sometimes provide useful insights. Generally it is possible to distinguish between populations at the continental level (eg Asian, African and European) provided you're from a population that is not close to a continental border. Admixture from endogamous populations such as Ashkenazi Jews and Finns can also be detected with reasonable confidence. However, it is not possible to distinguish between populations within individual European countries and it may never be possible to do so because our ancestry is so complicated.
Population level comparisons
While admixture results at the individual level are not particularly meaningful there is much more insight to be gained when the results of these tests are compared at the population level.
AncestryDNA have published a few very interesting blog posts with some nice maps comparing the admixture percentages of their British and Irish testers:
- What does our DNA tell us about being Irish by Mike Mulligan, Ancestry blog, 16 March 2015
- Exploring our DNA – Europe West by Mike Mulligan, Ancestry blog, 10 April 2015
- AncestryDNA - The Viking in the room by Mike Mulligan, Ancestry blog, 23 June 2015
AncestryDNA also did a similar exercise with their American testers and produced a genetic census of America with a range of maps showing the contribution of the different admixtures to the American population.
Ancestry also provide a useful bar chart which is hidden away in their help menu showing the differences between the various clusters. The chart below shows the differences between European regions. To access the chart click on the question mark in the top right of your screen from your ethnicity estimate page to open up the help and tips menu. Then click on "Why you might have more (or less) from a certain region". There is also a chart which will give you the breakdown for all 26 clusters.
A group of 23andMe scientists published a fascinating paper earlier this year in the American Journal of Human Genetics on The genetic ancestry of African Americans, Latinos, and European Americans across the United States (Bryc, Durand, Macpherson et al 2015).
The future
While these admixture tests will probably never give us all the answers we want, they will no doubt improve over time as better reference samples become available. We are already on the second incarnation of these tests at all three companies and we can expect to see many more improvements in the years to come. I would hope that all three companies will eventually be able to have access to the dataset from the People of the British Isles Project which should give improved estimates for people of British ancestry. It would also help if the reference samples were collected more carefully and with precise countries of origin clearly defined.
This article was updated on 17th May 2015 to include the screenshot of the bar chart from AncestryDNA showing the admixture breakdown within Europe. The article was updated on 18th May to include a mention of AncestryDNA's genetic census of America. The article was updated on 1st January 2017 to include a link to an AncestryDNA blog post on the percentages of Scandinavia DNA found in British and Irish testers.
FURTHER READING
Family Tree DNA MyOrigins reference samples
British 39
Irish 45
Scottish 43
23andMe reference samples
.As can be seen, both Ancestry and Family Tree DNA have very small sample sizes from the British Isles. They have not made any attempt to split the samples into constituent countries. Northern Ireland would be expected to be genetically very similar to Scotland but we don't know if Ancestry's Irish samples are from the north or the south of Ireland or from both countries combined. We don't where in Great Britain their samples were taken from. Family Tree DNA seem to think that Scotland has already separated from Britain and is a country in its own right! In view of this, it is not clear if their British samples also include people of Scottish ancestry or if they now think that Britain only consists of England and Wales. It is also not known if their Irish samples are for people with ancestors from the whole of Ireland or just from the Republic of Ireland.
23andMe have the benefit of a larger dataset but this has not improved the accuracy of their reports, and they have a confusing grasp of geography. They label a cluster as "British and Irish" but describe samples collected from the UK and Ireland. Do they realise that Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom? One wonders if customers with ancestors from Northern Ireland described themselves as from Ireland or the UK. It would have made more sense to ask people to define which country within the British Isles their ancestors came from rather than providing two confusing and overlapping options.
In view of these limitations it is therefore not surprising that we often see some bizarre results. For example, it is often the case that Americans come out with much higher percentages of "British" ancestry with these tests than "native" Brits like me. Americans sometimes have surprisingly high percentages of "British" of 80% or more.
The lack of defined reference samples from specific countries within the British Isles also sometimes gives confusing results. I have one project member with seven of his eight great-grandparents born in Wales and one great-grandparent born in Devon. At AncestryDNA he comes out as 64% Irish and 12% Great Britain, 12% Scandinavia and 11% Trace Regions. At Family Tree DNA his ancestry is reported as being 97% from the British Isles and 3% from Finland and Siberia.
There are no doubt problems with the sampling in other countries too which produces similarly misleading results. Joss ar Gall, who writes the Le Gall of Lower Britanny blog, is French and all his ancestry is from Britanny yet, according to his 23andMe test, he is only 19% French. AncestryDNA assigned him with no French DNA at all but found that he was 46% British and 10% Irish. One would expect many similarities between the French and the English but clusters which clearly cross country borders should not be labelled so specifically because people are misled and take the labels too literally.
Admixture tests really need to be used for entertainment purposes only at the present time, and the results should be taken with a very large pinch of salt. However, the tests can sometimes provide useful insights. Generally it is possible to distinguish between populations at the continental level (eg Asian, African and European) provided you're from a population that is not close to a continental border. Admixture from endogamous populations such as Ashkenazi Jews and Finns can also be detected with reasonable confidence. However, it is not possible to distinguish between populations within individual European countries and it may never be possible to do so because our ancestry is so complicated.
Population level comparisons
While admixture results at the individual level are not particularly meaningful there is much more insight to be gained when the results of these tests are compared at the population level.
AncestryDNA have published a few very interesting blog posts with some nice maps comparing the admixture percentages of their British and Irish testers:
- What does our DNA tell us about being Irish by Mike Mulligan, Ancestry blog, 16 March 2015
- Exploring our DNA – Europe West by Mike Mulligan, Ancestry blog, 10 April 2015
- AncestryDNA - The Viking in the room by Mike Mulligan, Ancestry blog, 23 June 2015
AncestryDNA also did a similar exercise with their American testers and produced a genetic census of America with a range of maps showing the contribution of the different admixtures to the American population.
Ancestry also provide a useful bar chart which is hidden away in their help menu showing the differences between the various clusters. The chart below shows the differences between European regions. To access the chart click on the question mark in the top right of your screen from your ethnicity estimate page to open up the help and tips menu. Then click on "Why you might have more (or less) from a certain region". There is also a chart which will give you the breakdown for all 26 clusters.
A group of 23andMe scientists published a fascinating paper earlier this year in the American Journal of Human Genetics on The genetic ancestry of African Americans, Latinos, and European Americans across the United States (Bryc, Durand, Macpherson et al 2015).
The future
While these admixture tests will probably never give us all the answers we want, they will no doubt improve over time as better reference samples become available. We are already on the second incarnation of these tests at all three companies and we can expect to see many more improvements in the years to come. I would hope that all three companies will eventually be able to have access to the dataset from the People of the British Isles Project which should give improved estimates for people of British ancestry. It would also help if the reference samples were collected more carefully and with precise countries of origin clearly defined.
This article was updated on 17th May 2015 to include the screenshot of the bar chart from AncestryDNA showing the admixture breakdown within Europe. The article was updated on 18th May to include a mention of AncestryDNA's genetic census of America. The article was updated on 1st January 2017 to include a link to an AncestryDNA blog post on the percentages of Scandinavia DNA found in British and Irish testers.
FURTHER READING
- Tim Janzen's Autosomal DNA testing comparison chart in the ISOGG Wiki
- Understanding genetic ancestry testing by David Balding, Debbie Kennett and Mark Thomas, UCL genetic ancestry website
- What is ancestry? by Joe Pickrell. DNA.Land blog, 1 November 2015.
- Is English DNA different from German DNA? by Dave Dowell, 19 May 2015
- "Ethnicity" estimates from DNA testing on the Learn a Little Every Day blog, 18 May 2015
- Comparison of my AncestryDNA, Family Tree DNA and 23andMe results by Aidan Byrne, 18 May 2015
- Making the best of what's not good by Judy Russell, 22 February 2015
- Admixture: not soup yet by Judy Russell, 18 May 2014
- Those pesky percentages by Judy Russell, 27 October 2013
- Three generations of FTDNA MyOrigins admixture results
- 23andMe's new Ancestry Composition - a British perspective
- My updated ethnicity results from AncestryDNA - a British perspective
- 23andMe Ancestry Composition White Paper, updated 29 May 2014
- Ancestry Composition: a novel efficient pipeline for ancestry deconvolution by Eric Y Durand, Chuong B Do, Joanna L Mountain and J Michael Macpherson. A paper deposited in the preprint server Haldane's Sieve on 20 October 2014.
- 23andMe ancestry reports
- AncestryDNA FAQs
- AncestryDNA ethnicity update by Pam Velazquez, Ancestry blog, 31 October 2013
- How AncestryDNA determines ethnicity. Ancestry Advice Centre, Answer ID 5449, updated 14 April 2015.
- AncestryDNA Ethnicity Estimate White Paper, updated 29 May 2014
- Breaking down the science behind AncestryDNA ethnicity estimates (video), 5 May 2015
- MyOrigins methodology white paper by Razib Khan and Rui H, FTDNA Learning Center, 8 May 2014
- Population clusters in myOrigins by Razib Khan, FTDNA Learning Center, 6 May 2014
- MyOrigins - surprising threads on the tapestry by Razib Khan, FTDNA Learning Center, 19 May 2014
- MyOrigins unravelling ancestries by Razib Khan, FTDNA Learning Center, 21 May 2014
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